HP PC's

Richard richard1941 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 15 20:07:10 PDT 2011


Thanks for that warning.  I was just about to go to Fry's and buy an HP
computer!   I guess I'll get something else now.

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On Behalf Of dalethorn
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:35 PM
To: hhc at lists.brouhaha.com
Subject: Re: HP PC's

If all I cared about was HP's stock price or "marketing", then yes, their
PC's would be significant in that respect.  But since their PC's are only
marginally better than pure crap, and I wouldn't dream of carrying their
stock, the point is moot.

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> See my comments below.
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> Get well soon, Richard. 
> 
> 
> 
> That divestment update is intriguing. It makes me wonder, regardless of
how
> the decision goes, how much do you suppose HP has lost from the
distractions
> of such an ugly process? 
> 
> 
> 
> I would estimate at least three days of work for every employee involved.
> 
> 
> 
> Big structural changes are naturally disruptive, of course. I'm sure
> companies faced with such changes try to take those costs into account, as
> far as possible, and balance them against expected benefits. But
> telegraphing a tsunami scale change like this and then backing out has got
> to hurt in lots of ways.
> 
> 
> 
> It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the HP Way on the part
> of the current Board.  All they can think of is what they learned while
> studying for an MBA.  Another issue is their size.  The efficiency is so
low
> that smaller management product groups would be better.  
> 
> 
> 
> One of the most effective tools they have is their website.  Anyone who as
> looked at it will easily come to the conclusion that it is totally out of
> control.  The whole structure is wrong.  It should take less than an hour
to
> correct an error on the website.  I doubt that any simple change could be
> done in a week.  In some cases even knowing who is responsible for a
> specific page is unknowable simply because of the organization structure.
> 
> 
> 
> Correcting a couple dozen broken links is a process that takes many months
> and costs more money than I ever earned in one year.  With such a system
in
> place you may easily understand why the HP website is so ineffective.
> 
> 
> 
> X < > Y,    Richard
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> Howard
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