HP PC's at Fry's

dalethorn d_t_h_o_r_n at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 16 12:48:29 PDT 2011


Good to see someone still has a sense of humor. Too bad HP isn't selling that.    (Then again, maybe they are....)

On Oct 16, 2011, at 15:00, hhc-request at lists.brouhaha.com wrote:

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> From: "Richard" <richard1941 at gmail.com>
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> Thanks for that warning.  I was just about to go to Fry's and buy an HP
> computer!   I guess I'll get something else now.
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:35 PM
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> If all I cared about was HP's stock price or "marketing", then yes, their
> PC's would be significant in that respect.  But since their PC's are only
> marginally better than pure crap, and I wouldn't dream of carrying their
> stock, the point is moot.
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>> From: "Richard J. Nelson" <rjnelsoncf at cox.net>
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>> Hello,
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>> See my comments below.
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>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:19 PM
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>> Get well soon, Richard. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That divestment update is intriguing. It makes me wonder, regardless of
> how
>> the decision goes, how much do you suppose HP has lost from the
> distractions
>> of such an ugly process? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would estimate at least three days of work for every employee involved.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Big structural changes are naturally disruptive, of course. I'm sure
>> companies faced with such changes try to take those costs into account, as
>> far as possible, and balance them against expected benefits. But
>> telegraphing a tsunami scale change like this and then backing out has got
>> to hurt in lots of ways.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the HP Way on the part
>> of the current Board.  All they can think of is what they learned while
>> studying for an MBA.  Another issue is their size.  The efficiency is so
> low
>> that smaller management product groups would be better.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One of the most effective tools they have is their website.  Anyone who as
>> looked at it will easily come to the conclusion that it is totally out of
>> control.  The whole structure is wrong.  It should take less than an hour
> to
>> correct an error on the website.  I doubt that any simple change could be
>> done in a week.  In some cases even knowing who is responsible for a
>> specific page is unknowable simply because of the organization structure.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Correcting a couple dozen broken links is a process that takes many months
>> and costs more money than I ever earned in one year.  With such a system
> in
>> place you may easily understand why the HP website is so ineffective.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> X < > Y,    Richard
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>> Howard
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> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:16:58 -0700
> From: David Ramsey <dramsey at neko.com>
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> Well, HP PCs are commodities, for the most part, built with the same care and attention of a Dell or Gateway. Certainly nothing to write home about. 
> 
> HP used to have a nice boutique operation called Voodoo PC, who made the wonderful Blackbird computer, but a couple of years after they bought Voodoo they closed it down.
> 
> Their servers (Z800 series) are very nice, but quite expensive.
> 
> Honestly, unless you go for a customized system (Falcon Northwest, Cyberpower, Alienware, etc.) or a Mac you're gonna get the same commodity components in the same cheap case. The biggest problem is scrubbing all the bloatware off the system.
> 
> -- David
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> On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Richard wrote:
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>> Thanks for that warning.  I was just about to go to Fry's and buy an HP
>> computer!   I guess I'll get something else now.
> 
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