Tesla processors?

dalethorn d_t_h_o_r_n at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 17 15:19:32 PDT 2011


Seems to me if you're coding in machine language (and you are - admit it), you can get to those special processor features one way or the other.  If I had the right data, I'd try it myself.

On Oct 17, 2011, at 13:31, hhc-request at lists.brouhaha.com wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:04:52 -0700
> From: Howard Owen <egbokalaka at gmail.com>
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> I'm telling you, a Beowulf cluster of 41CLs ought to have enough power to
> blow these namby-pamby vector engines away!
> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Veli-Pekka Nousiainen <
> nousiainen.velipekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> One may consider future AMD/ATI Radeon cards.
>> They are also "Tesla" cards.
>> Typically Radeon cards have been cooler.
>> Anyway both companies are heading for 28nm process,
>> which new HUGE cards
>> BTW:
>> I would get as motherboard for 4 GPU cards
>> I would use watercooling and OC
>> Just read a lot of tests and wait a bit more for the 28nm cards
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 21:02, David Ramsey <dramsey at neko.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Richard wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was considering a Tesla GPU computer.   But I am worried about my
>>> electric
>>>> bill, and the additional power needed to cool the room.  Have any
>>> experience
>>>> with those?  Imagine, 1000 parallel processors.   I could solve some
>>> serious
>>>> PDE's!
>>> 
>>> Well, bear in mind that the "processor" on an NVIDIA graphics card is not
>>> the same as, say, a processor core on an Intel multi-core processor. It does
>>> a lot less, and the architecture is optimized for problems amenable to
>>> vectorization-- like, say, rendering millions of pixels in a video game.
>>> 
>>> I don't have any experience with the CUDA toolkit used to program these
>>> beasts, so I really say anything else about their performance. Unless you're
>>> writing your own software, of course, they're going to be pretty useless.
>>> 
>>> According to this page:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/43395/NV_DS_Tesla_M2050_M2070_Apr10_LowRes.pdf
>>> 
>>> ...the rated max power draw for a Tesla M2050/2070 GPU is only 225 watts,
>>> which is actually less than a consumer-grade GTX580 card. Oddly the Tesla
>>> GPU is passively cooled so you'll want to make sure your system has good
>>> airflow over the card's radiator.
>>> 
>>> -- David
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> From: "Richard" <richard1941 at gmail.com>
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> Oddly, I wouldn't mind having a Tesla roadster instead of my junky Mazda
> pickup truck.  I wonder of those things have jumper cables for when they run
> out of charge.   Or perhaps they can self charge by being towed or by
> rolling downhill?
> 
> 
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> From: hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com [mailto:hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com]
> On Behalf Of Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:37 AM
> To: Handheld Computing Conference discussion list
> Subject: Re: HP PC's
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> 
> 
> One may consider future AMD/ATI Radeon cards. 
> 
> They are also "Tesla" cards.
> 
> Typically Radeon cards have been cooler.
> 
> Anyway both companies are heading for 28nm process,
> 
> which new HUGE cards
> 
> BTW: 
> 
> I would get as motherboard for 4 GPU cards
> 
> I would use watercooling and OC
> 
> Just read a lot of tests and wait a bit more for the 28nm cards
> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 21:02, David Ramsey <dramsey at neko.com> wrote:
> 
> On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Richard wrote:
> 
>> I was considering a Tesla GPU computer.   But I am worried about my
> electric
>> bill, and the additional power needed to cool the room.  Have any
> experience
>> with those?  Imagine, 1000 parallel processors.   I could solve some
> serious
>> PDE's!
> 
> Well, bear in mind that the "processor" on an NVIDIA graphics card is not
> the same as, say, a processor core on an Intel multi-core processor. It does
> a lot less, and the architecture is optimized for problems amenable to
> vectorization-- like, say, rendering millions of pixels in a video game.
> 
> I don't have any experience with the CUDA toolkit used to program these
> beasts, so I really say anything else about their performance. Unless you're
> writing your own software, of course, they're going to be pretty useless.
> 
> According to this page:
> 
> 
> http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/43395/NV_DS_Tesla_M2050_M2070_Apr10_LowRes.pdf
> 
> ...the rated max power draw for a Tesla M2050/2070 GPU is only 225 watts,
> which is actually less than a consumer-grade GTX580 card. Oddly the Tesla
> GPU is passively cooled so you'll want to make sure your system has good
> airflow over the card's radiator.
> 
> -- David
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> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:24:01 +0200
> From: Marcus von Cube <marcus at mvcsys.de>
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> Eric,
> 
> the CD arrived in good shape. :-)
> 
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> 
> Marcus von Cube
> 
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> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:25:51 -0500
> From: "Eric Rechlin" <eric at hpcalc.org>
> Subject: Re: HP PC's
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>> Oddly, I wouldn't mind having a Tesla roadster instead of my junky Mazda
>> pickup truck.  I wonder of those things have jumper cables for when they 
>> run
>> out of charge.   Or perhaps they can self charge by being towed or by
>> rolling downhill?
> 
> Rather than jumper cables, you use a special charging port.
> 
> When rolling downhill, it does indeed self-charge when you are using the 
> regenerative braking.  I would imagine this would work when being towed, 
> too, but that seems counterproductive (the drag on the tow vehicle would be 
> greater than it would gain in charge).
> 
> (No, I don't have one.  But one of my best friends from college bought a 
> Chevrolet Volt.  I'll keep driving my V8 gasoline-powered car that kills 
> puppies and kittens and baby seals, thank you.)
> 
> Eric 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:28:41 -0700
> From: "Richard" <richard1941 at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Conference DVD Details
> To: "'Handheld Computing Conference discussion list'"
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> Mine was round.  That is considered a very good shape in flatland.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com [mailto:hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com]
> On Behalf Of Marcus von Cube
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:24 PM
> To: Handheld Computing Conference discussion list
> Subject: Re: Conference DVD Details
> 
> Eric,
> 
> the CD arrived in good shape. :-)
> 
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> 
> Marcus von Cube
> 
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> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:31:26 -0700
> From: "Richard" <richard1941 at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: HP PC's
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> While I have your attention, could you give me a call at 310-844-2064, or
> give me your phone number and have me call you (cell phone more secure than
> e-mail).
> 
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