HHC Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15

Gerald Schultz Gerald.Schultz at fox.com
Mon Oct 17 17:58:04 PDT 2011

No Richard, I don't even know what the ATM list is.  I'm just a want-to-be astronomer.  I love astronomy but I get bored to damn easily.  I have two small telescopes collecting dust in my garage.  The newer telescope can be steered by a PC and that's how I ended up with Starry Night.  My wife says I have the attention span of a 5-year-old.  I do love the stars though.

From: hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com [mailto:hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:49 PM
To: 'Handheld Computing Conference discussion list'
Subject: RE: HHC Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15

Are you a Telescope Nut?   Have I encountered you on the ATM list?

From: hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com [mailto:hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Schultz
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:21 PM
To: Handheld Computing Conference discussion list
Subject: RE: HHC Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15

Back in July, I ordered a dv7t Quad HP Laptop with the permission of my CFO (wife) for my birthday.  We use HP PC hardware here at work and have always had good support.  I got a good price on it and when it arrived, it had problems with the Blu-ray drive.  I was given the choice of replacing the Blu-ray or exchanging the whole laptop.  I went with the exchange as the problem was most likely the MB itself (the Blu-ray drive would disappear from Win7 and when I reseated the SATA connector on the bottom of the MB, it would reappear for a while).  I had real run-arounds with customer support which pissed me off.  In the end, I got the replacement laptop with 8 GB of RAM rather than 6 GB for $7 less.  They also sent the new laptop with the wrong battery so they let me keep it and sent me the battery I had ordered for free.  The laptop runs great but I think HP's customer support stinks.

Here's the kicker for me.  When I felt confident this laptop was working properly, I tried to install Starry Night Pro Plus (an astronomy program) and it would freeze during the installation.  After a couple of rounds of exchanging emails with tech support, they suggested I try loading the latest video card drivers from HP's website.  I questioned this as the laptop was only two weeks old and I assumed I already had the latest video drivers (this laptop has two video cards, an ATI Radeon 6770 and built-in Intel display; the OS selects the hardware depending upon the application).  So I installed the new video drivers and now Starry Night Pro Plus loads up and works great!  Goes to show you I should not make assumptions about new PCs having the latest Windows 7 image on the boot drive.


From: hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com [mailto:hhc-bounces at lists.brouhaha.com] On Behalf Of Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:16 PM
To: Handheld Computing Conference discussion list
Subject: Re: HHC Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15

I'm writing these messages using a prehistoric dual core HP laptop
I would buy another one with Intel Haswell architecture
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 00:05, Brian Walsh <bpwalsh at speakeasy.net<mailto:bpwalsh at speakeasy.net>> wrote:
Interesting comments. A couple of months ago I bought another HP laptop to replace the one I've been using and like it. It wasn't just because
it's an HP but because the price and performance were excellent. I guess I'll see how it turns out.

On a related note but slightly off topic:
By around the end of next week I will be receiving a customized HP TouchSmart PC, to be dedicated for use as a high performance music server. The
internal hard drive is replaced with a 30 GB SSD, and everything unnecessary under Windows 7 for its function is stripped out. An external USB
hard drive and/or NAS is used for music storage. Music is played back from memory rather than from disc, which is a feature available in J. River
Media Center, the software used for playback and disc ripping.


>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:07:10 -0700
>From: "Richard" richard1941 at gmail.com<mailto:richard1941 at gmail.com>>
>Subject: RE: HP PC's
>To: "'Handheld Computing Conference discussion list'"
>       hhc at lists.brouhaha.com<mailto:hhc at lists.brouhaha.com>>
>Message-ID: 07A10248DA004E51B541357A143FF194 at OwnerPC>
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>Thanks for that warning.  I was just about to go to Fry's and buy an HP
>computer!   I guess I'll get something else now.

>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:16:58 -0700
>From: David Ramsey dramsey at neko.com<mailto:dramsey at neko.com>>
>Subject: Re: HP PC's
>To: Handheld Computing Conference discussion list
>       hhc at lists.brouhaha.com<mailto:hhc at lists.brouhaha.com>>
>Message-ID: 03071AE6-E4F3-4632-9938-519C88F8D824 at neko.com<mailto:03071AE6-E4F3-4632-9938-519C88F8D824 at neko.com>>
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>Well, HP PCs are commodities, for the most part, built with the same care and attention of a Dell or Gateway. Certainly nothing to write home
>HP used to have a nice boutique operation called Voodoo PC, who made the wonderful Blackbird computer, but a couple of years after they bought
Voodoo they closed it down.
>Their servers (Z800 series) are very nice, but quite expensive.
>Honestly, unless you go for a customized system (Falcon Northwest, Cyberpower, Alienware, etc.) or a Mac you're gonna get the same commodity
components in the same cheap case. The biggest problem is scrubbing all the bloatware off the system.
>-- David

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